Gigabyte TweaKING Fest - Show your magic!

[M.Beier]

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On October 26-28th Gigabyte is hosting an overclocking/benchmarking event in the heart of Paris.

Powerusers from all across Europe has been invited to Paris by Gigabyte to meet at Les Jardins Du Marais (http://www.lesjardinsdumarais.com/uk/index.php) hotel for unleashing the true power of the Ibex Peak, P55.

On 26th people will arrive, 27th benchmarking & Interview with key-staff from Gigabyte.

Participants' list:
Belgium - Massman, Leeghoofd
CzechRepublic - ???, ???, ???
Denmark - M.Beier, Vanovich, ???
Estonia - Jaan, ???
Finland - ???, ???, ???
France - boblemagnifique, pt1t, ???
Germany - ???, ???, ???
Greece - gorillakos, some press guy
Hungary - ze_mester, subaruwrc, ???
Italy - Giorgrioprimo, ???, ???
Latvia - Sam, some press guy
Norway - ???, ???, ???
Poland - ryba, Chaos, ???
Romania - matose, Monstru, ???
Russia - Dimdirol, ???, ???
Turkey - hey, TosunerMC, ???
Serbia - ???,???,???
Slovakia - ???, ???, ???
Spain - FoX360, Skunk, some press guy
Sweden - elmor, ME4ME, ???
Ukraine - SteelRat, Maj0r, ???
UK - philip1193, ???

[Sam]

I've heard from Polish Gigabyte representative that there'll be no DI or LN2, is it true?
What kind of "fest" is this? Seminar / OC demo / mini OC contest ?

[marmott]

good to know, I'll try to see who is invited for France :)

[FoX360]

I've heard from Polish Gigabyte representative that there'll be no DI or LN2, is it true?
What kind of "fest" is this? Seminar / OC demo / mini OC contest ?

Skunk and me stay in this event :D I don't have any idea of kind of this "fest" but i will make a lot of photos and spend a lot of ln2 :ocx2008s37:

[K404]

Im still waiting on my email from Gigabyte :p:p

[hey]

hi guys, me and tosunermc is coming for this event but the same here; we have no idea what is gonna be there :)

well, at least meeting with friends and my first time at paris :)

[Pt1t]

good to know, I'll try to see who is invited for France :)

France :

Boblemagnifique and me

Benelux :

Massman and ?

[Massman]

From Belgium it's only Leeghoofd and me

[FoX360]

Sam on Spain; FoX, Skunk, One press guy (noticias 3D).

[GoriLLakoS]

99% I am coming :)
Pending another guy...but he is not 100% sure :)

Gigabyte asked for Power Users...but i see many Great Overclockers on the Charts :P

[K404]

Welcome to OCX bro :D:D

[Monstru]

Me and my colleague matose will be there :D

Micutzu could not attend this time, and the third guy will be from a printed magazine (CHIP).

Guys....I am really looking forward to get together again.

GoriLLakoS (http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/member.php?u=757) - GPR an hipro will not be there? :( :(:(

[linky]

As I heard....No, hipro and gpr won't be there this time.
GoriLLakoS will come along with a guy from a magazine.

[Sam]

I'll put a list with the participants in the first post, if Marc doesn't mind :)

[GoriLLakoS]

Thanks K404 :D

Monstru, hipro and gpr are not comming...it is a Tweaking Fest, not an Overclocking Fest :p

[Ming@s]

And Portuguese-go??

[M.Beier]

Thx Sam :-)

Im on vacation, so I wont be much online before saturday

[Monstru]

Tweaking or no tweaking, I will surely miss our good friends from Greece :(

[hey]

so what will be tweaked? i mean which benchmarks ? if this is an tweaking event;extreme cooling will not be needed as i am told that ln2 may not available :(

sad to hear 2-Georges are not coming but hey GoriLLakoS, nice to hear you coming ;)

and i see a lot of old friends coming and sure it will be nice to meet in face some of you guys ;)

[hey]

plus, anyone has the program of the event ?? i was told that they will send today but didnt receive anything yet :(

[Freakezoit]

Too bad i`m not invited for Germany :frown:

[M.Beier]

plus, anyone has the program of the event ?? i was told that they will send today but didnt receive anything yet :(
Yes, I have the program, I can send you next time I see you on MSN

[Monstru]

Well, send it to everybody bro :) I'll shoot you a PM with my email if you haven't got it.

[M.Beier]

Send ya a mail Monstru, please forward to the others :-)

[Monstru]

Thx Marc. I received the mail and I forwarded it to hey and ryba, but it seems I need another mail adress from them, since the mails returned. Guys, if anyone wants the schedule, just shoot me a pm with yor mail and I will send it.

[Sam]

is it confidential info? :D .. do you mind posting here ? :)

[Monstru]

Well, it might be, I dunno. I can mail it to everyone of you guys though :)

[hipro5]

Thanks K404 :D

Monstru, hipro and gpr are not comming...it is a Tweaking Fest, not an Overclocking Fest :p

You mean that I just O/C and don't tweak things?..... :p
I can tweak..... :p

[hey]

okay i received the schedule,, it says wr challenge and superpi and 3dmark contest but what 3d ? and what superpi ? and of course with what setup ? i mean vga :) i just asked a lot maybe but some of you may hear sth :)

[Monstru]

No bro, that was preliminary, they will have another schedule from what I understood, no LN2, no contest.

[ME4ME]

Im a bit confused about what to expect from this trip.
They are taking 22 teams + media to Paris, but aren't doing any contest or whats so ever? Let's hope there will be more official information soon :)

[Monstru]

Remember when they invited people and media to Taiwan before P45 launch, to test the boards, tweak the bios and so on? Now imagine the same thing, with new boards for Clarkdale's iGP :)

[Massman]

But without LN2

[Monstru]

So it would seem :)

[DeDaL]

I have some info about tests at this event

3Dmark 2005 and Super pi 32M

[K404]

The thing about Giga is that their event comms really SUCK. I know this one has nothing to do with me, but from what I see from you guys posting... GOOC was pretty much the same.

[Sam]

32M? ... yaaay :D

[Oliver]

32M? ... yaaay :D
can it be any better huh :D

keep pushing it

[M.Beier]

32M? ... yaaay :D
I keep my fingers crossed for no pre-made OS then :ocx2008s37:
lets try tweaking for 32M on time, Im in - give me 3 min :ocx0938:

[matose]

Can't wait to meet you again guys :D! This isn't a contest, is just for fun and for some new technologies (maybe they have GT300 :ocx0946:)

[ryba]

matose: this is never ending competition or contest :P

[Monstru]

Ok guys, beer drinking competition it is =))

[MaSell]

Beer drinKING competition? So where is my ticket :D ?!

[over@locker886]

Beer drinKING competition? So where is my ticket :D ?!

LoL :ocx2008s02:

Have fun guys! :)

[FoX360]

No Ln2, no fest...

Beer drinking competition, well maybe fest :D

But remeber Paris is not cheap, the losers pay the beer xD

[Monstru]

Very good ideea :ocx0902:

[hey]

so what is the latest news ?? i heard superpi and 3d01 will be done and rather than a fest it willl be a competition again

[Sam]

I got another spam email from Gigabyte (together with two emails about their F1 dominance, lol) that says that it will be an aircooling contest of two benchmarks (32M and 3DMark01) with main prize "over $2000"

[ME4ME]

thats what I heard right from the beginning.
oh well.. lets see how it turns out.
I wiss Gigabyte could be more clear though.

[Massman]

"over 2000$"?

GBT mobo + psu + memory + ...

basicly taking the setup, without CPU, home

[Sam]

...got another spam email from Gigabyte ...

Rigs:
- i7 870 limited to 4GHz
- UD6 board
- GTX275 or GTX285 (uncertail yet, most likely 275 because they need to hype their superclocked model)
- memory still unknown

Benches:
- 32M (60mins, enough 4-5 runs may be)
- 3DMark01 (60mins, enough for 1-2 runs may be)
- Everest Bandwidth (10mins)

No extra hardware or software allowed , so you're not allowed to tweak (at the tweaKING contest), modify the heatsinks, bring drinks or chess :(

[FoX360]

Memorys is provided by kingston, and i think one of this models;

KHX2133C8D3T1K2/4GX4GB 2133MHz DDR3 Non-ECC
CL8
KHX2133C9D3T1K2/4GX4GB 2133MHz DDR3 Non-ECC
CL9

hdd maybe SSD from intel or kingston (Kingston "intel" SSD :D).

[Kabauterman]

For Germany, me and my Teammate TschernoBill (from the BenchBros)
are invited :)

[FoX360]

Another update spam! ;



Here you are the components list:
Motherboard model: GA-P55-UD6
VGA Card model:GV-N26SO-896I
Memory model: KHX2000C9D3T1K2/4GX DDR3-2000, Non-ECC, Unbuffered DIMM, Intel X.M.P, 4G: Kit of 2 - 2GB
CPU model: i5-750
Cooler model: F101 PWM (Glacial Tech)
PSU model: Enermax Model name not provided yet, but it is 500 - 700 watts power.

They do not need to bring any hardware or equipment, even LN2, this time, we just use software tweaking which is the process of improving the performance of an application or the quality of its output, in our festival, the purpose is to optimize the performance of GIGABYTE P55 MBs) do not have any stipulation.

Finally what is the cpu??? 870 or 750? xD


Fest Reference Update
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6538/870or750.jpg

[Sam]

on the PPS they sent me a day before was a 870 (Massman can confirm it), now it's 750 ... not much difference anyway

[ME4ME]

Got that mail too.
But there's one thing i don't really understand:

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/ME4ME2/Gigabyte_rule.jpg

and the follow:
You do not need to bring any hardware or equipment, even LN2 will be there for you.

So we are not allowed to mod or change cooling, and we don't have to take with us any equipment, but there still is LN2 available? :confused:

[Massman]

there will be no LN2 ;-)

[Sam]

you can't use your own OS or tweaking software / CW material unless you can memorise and re-code them

[dinos22]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
only 60 minutes
:(

thats gay
you guys should ALL speak to the main person there and see if its possible to double the time at least....it's a tweaking contest afterall

[Sam]

I see "60min for 32M" not being the biggest probem unlike "inability to use you own software" which means:
- you have only one OS => if you crash it a couple of times while pretesting (which you will obviously do) - your efficency gets worse
- same OS for all the tests => trying to run 32M with VGA drivers installed , ehm ...
- no custom OS (like lite XPs or 2k3) => already commentated above
- not sure about it, but most likely HDD will consist of only one partition => no good copywazas for 32M
- no WinRAR => no CDT possible
- no .bat or .reg => you have to memorise it all, code it again and THEN use it
- no "extra tools some of us use" => (like sysinternals , spi tweaker , eram, pi_data.rec , etc)

I simply don't understand it ... if at their "hardware raw freq" contest they allow contestants to use any kind of cooling/modding they want - why can't they follow same principal at "software raw efficency" edition ???
I've no idea who came up with this tweaking contest idea, but he surely got it all wrong. How many good "tweakers" get their scores done with close to no adjustments to software whatsoever?

[Kabauterman]

I see "60min for 32M" not being the biggest probem unlike "inability to use you own software" which means:
- you have only one OS => if you crash it a couple of times while pretesting (which you will obviously do) - your efficency gets worse
- same OS for all the tests => trying to run 32M with VGA drivers installed , ehm ...
- no custom OS (like lite XPs or 2k3) => already commentated above
- not sure about it, but most likely HDD will consist of only one partition => no good copywazas for 32M
- no WinRAR => no CDT possible
- no .bat or .reg => you have to memorise it all, code it again and THEN use it
- no "extra tools some of us use" => (like sysinternals , spi tweaker , eram, pi_data.rec , etc)

I simply don't understand it ... if at their "hardware raw freq" contest they allow contestants to use any kind of cooling/modding they want - why can't they follow same principal at "software raw efficency" edition ???
I've no idea who came up with this tweaking contest idea, but he surely got it all wrong. How many good "tweakers" get their scores done with close to no adjustments to software whatsoever?

ahm Sam! do you think the contest only consists of 32M? For 3DMark01 you not need anything else than what is allowed.

We have 30min for the Contest Time, only for OS Preperation! I think GB is not that silly that they dont know that we need more than one Partition and as best more that one Windows...

GB has long time experience in GOOC... many if all competitors will agree we can force the use of OCX SuperPI Tweaker or WinRAR for CDT

[hey]

haha guys that is why they say `show your magic` :ocx2008s38:

[dinos22]

haha guys that is why they say `show your magic` :ocx2008s38:

hehehe good point lol

[Predator]

i think gigabyte Spain must assumed i was not coming back from NYC as i didn't have any email with the news :D

damn, i'm not a good tweaker anymore :p

[FoX360]

i think gigabyte Spain must assumed i was not coming back from NYC as i didn't have any email with the news :D

damn, i'm not a good tweaker anymore :p


I ask for you come with me but GB Spain tell me only one poweruser, and 2 press guys.... always you stay bused with your wife at this moment :P

More time for bench with your cascade :D

[Trouffman]

ah ah ah 60 mins round is just... too short ^^ especially spi32 M !

Sounds like they want HIGH Freq memory !

anyway, I'm the official provider for the like broadcast (everything will be on http://www.overclocking-tv.com) just ask me if you want to embed the player on your site !

Enjoy \o/

[dinos22]

looks like there is half an hour to prep the OS for each round and its a 4Ghz CPU limit

Sam no more excuses...remember you dont need any tweaks AT ALL. You will show us lazy benchers how to run RTL about -10 to everyone else RIGHT

lol

[Monstru]

Trouff - great news about the live broadcast bro, can't wait to meet there!

dinos - different settings needed for PI32M OS and 2k1 OS. DAMN I hate hving to do both on he same OS. Back in the day when I was passionate about Pi tweaing the guys will allways say "why the fluck is this not wotking" when we would get to the 3D part on the same os :D

[dinos22]

yeah i know
and if you do it right you can reverse most of the changes required

actually one of my fastest XP Oses for superpi is in fact a 3D OS so i dont think i would really need to make too much of a change between the two

this contest will be won on RAM tweaking/optimising as most top runners will know what to do with the OS i'm sure....there will be also some luck with the RAM overclockability and GFX OCing capability as well of course...........I would check if its possible to get two kits and bin each stick quick and combine two best ones........

Gigabyte will make a second partition like they have for us in GOOC so you will be able to do manual wazza

Guys here's the deal you are ALL on the same gear so it is up to YOU to make a difference with what you've been given......My comment about 60minutes was about OS setup and quick RAM binning and testing....i feel that it really should need 2 hours for prep and then the competition schedule as per usual......maybe you guys should urge hicookie to get them to change rules....he will be there as far as i know.

Monstru you are familiar with Giga boards....I'm watching out for you to be in top few names for sure mate....your 3dmark01 tweaking is right up there man

This is going to be crazy and a lot of fun :D

Go hard boys and good luck(yeah you'll need that too the field is chock a block full of good OCers) :D:D:D:D

[Massman]

*rant*

Isn't a quality of a good tweaker that he can get very efficiency scores on any platform? Given we have all the same OS, given you will be beating us by 10 seconds, you will still come off as the very best SuperPI tweaker on earth, right? :ocx0937:

A good chess player is one that can do well on all boards, in all environements. :D

[Sam]

Isn't a quality of a good tweaker that he can get very efficiency scores on any platform?Why on Earth would a good tweaker want to use "any platform"?

dinos, the only sample of Gigabyte P55 I have ever tested failed to POST with RTL in any setting other than [AUTO]

[Massman]

That's not the point. The point is that, I assume, a characteristic of a good tweaker is that he can perform very good scores on any platform. This means that someone else, worse tweaker, will not be able to match his scores using the same platform.

What am I missing here?

[Kabauterman]

Why on Earth would a good tweaker want to use "any platform"?

dinos, the only sample of Gigabyte P55 I have ever tested failed to POST with RTL in any setting other than [AUTO]

Same Setup for everyone, If you cant set RTLs we all cant set RTLs, so we must use other tweaks to get best efficienzy...

Only if you have a good performance after 2 weeks of testing different settings is not a sign of a good tweaker, it is a sign of a guy without private life...

This contest is not about WR Performance, you only must beat the other competitors, but it looks like you are a little bit worry about your winning chance...

[TschernoBill]

Word!

[Monstru]

Thank you dinos for the support, we'll see what happens there, we will have fun anyway. The only problems I am beeing concerned about are the fact that 60 min for PI32M tweaking is a little bit to little time, and the fact that if we do not change anything about the CPU's cooling...well....250 x 16 is out of the question :D

Anyway, like every time with this kind of live events, the ideea is having fun, having a good competition based on friendship and respect, having luck to get a good chip (be it DDR, GFX or CPU) and knowing that everyone fights with the same weapons. So...someone will be first and someone will be last, but that is not the most important thing :)

[Kabauterman]

Thank you dinos for the support, we'll see what happens there, we will have fun anyway. The only problems I am beeing concerned about are the fact that 60 min for PI32M tweaking is a little bit to little time, and the fact that if we do not change anything about the CPU's cooling...well....250 x 16 is out of the question :D

Anyway, like every time with this kind of live events, the ideea is having fun, having a good competition based on friendship and respect, having luck to get a good chip (be it DDR, GFX or CPU) and knowing that everyone fights with the same weapons. So...someone will be first and someone will be last, but that is not the most important thing :)

I think the most important question is

"who have the better Uncore CPU and who have the better memory"

[Predator]

Anyway, like every time with this kind of live events, the ideea is having fun, having a good competition based on friendship and respect, having luck to get a good chip (be it DDR, GFX or CPU) and knowing that everyone fights with the same weapons. So...someone will be first and someone will be last, but that is not the most important thing :)

that's the point man, this is what is all about, too bad i won't be able to share some beers and fun with you guys this time, but we will for the next time for sure :)

good luck to everyone and have tons of fun ;)

[Monstru]

Predator - you will be missed buddy :( However, I am glad for you that you have something more important to attend to now, and that is your lady :)

Kabauterman - with i750 an air there are not much worries about Uncore, we will not get that high BCLK so that the Uncore would be the problem. The memory kits, yes, that is a different story :)

[Kabauterman]

Uncore = Max. Memory clock... thats what I mean

[dinos22]

Predator - you will be missed buddy :( However, I am glad for you that you have something more important to attend to now, and that is your lady :)

Kabauterman - with i750 an air there are not much worries about Uncore, we will not get that high BCLK so that the Uncore would be the problem. The memory kits, yes, that is a different story :)

lol why dont you give him some bios settings tips as well while you're at it hahaha :p

[dinos22]

Sam it might have been a dud board or some early early bios

i have had early engineering boards that dont even take current bioses and they all have no problems setting RTL

it doesnt really matter....once you tune the board you can actually leave the RTL at auto and it will select the tightest setting needed depending on where you boot the board heh :)

these boards are actually pretty easy to OC and you guys are lucky cause they have the best bios saving/loading and fail recovery in business so it will be less hair pulling in that sense and more OCing

make sure you guys place the beer keg as far away as possible from Monstru so that you stand a chance against him in this competiton cause he'll be walking for most of the comp....walking to get the beer and drinking it by the time he gets back to his setup and back again for antoher one hahahah :p

BeardedOne :D

[Sam]

I see that they have changed the CPU one more time, it's 750 again
Provided that DJ-F doesn't like 6-7-6 this means 1:5 all the way => highest BCLK (best CPU/board) + best 7-8-7 clocking kit for the win in 32M.
As for 01 - there are far more variables (run order, LOD, good/bad GTs) that may set competitors apart, hehe

As for the quality of Gigabyte P55 boards ... I'll only say it's far from best ...

[dinos22]

oh so its not 870
dang

[hey]

wow so 4ghz 32m and 01, it is nice to play with :)

[hey]

but i wish they change benchmark order cause it is easier to turn back from 01 os to 32m os, at least for me :D

[Monstru]

lol why dont you give him some bios settings tips as well while you're at it hahaha :p

Ah c'mon, there's nothing to hide, I'll give my 2k1 run order if that makes anyone happy. This is about taking pride and fun in what we do, not like we are going to jump on each other's throats (maybe that's why we've never got higher then 4th place in this live competitions =)) )



Uncore = Max. Memory clock... thats what I mean

No bro, it's not. This is not X58 :)

Anyway, who will be joining from Germany and Slovakia? These are the only countries I still don't know the participants yet.

[Kabauterman]

I have played only a little bit with 1156 but what I see is that the most difference between the Chips what I had here, was that one clocks realy good in memory, and the other CPU clocks realy bad... and I am not talking about 1100 CL7 or something...

Germany... :rolleyes: me and my Teammate TschernoBill...

[Sam]

uncore with 750 is locked at x16 , so you high BCLK is the key for both "high" uncore and high memfreq , if your cpu won't be able even to hit 200 then you're pretty much drawing dead in terms of winning chances

[Monstru]

Yup, x16 is what it's all about. And max x10 for DDR... Problem is that BLCK on air does not get that high over 220-230, so huge uncore will not be something we should worry about :)

Thx for the update Kabauterman, now I we only need to know who is coming from Slovacia, and the list is completed.

[Massman]

220-230 is already quite high. Most retail chips i've seen won't do 210 that easy.

[Kabauterman]

What Chips are on that Memory?

hope there is enoght Memory to Preselect some Sticks.
If we are limited to 200 MHz BCLK from the CPU we need Memory what do 6-7-6

[Monstru]

No Elpida Hypers, that's for sure. DDR3 2000 CL7 will MAYBE be possible :)

Anyway, from what I know from GOOC, there is no preselection for any hardware, so may the luck be with us once more :)

[Sam]

3x2Gb HyperX 2000 CL9 kits were HCF0, later switched to old DJ-F ... so I expect to see DJ-F on 2x2Gb kits too

even with help from Dr.Voltage don't expect them to hit anywhere near 2000 6-7-6 32M stable ... with supergood kit 2000 6-8-6 should be possible, but won't be very fast

the setting I'd be looking for are 210x19 with 1:5 and 7-8-7

[Kabauterman]

3x2Gb HyperX 2000 CL9 kits were HCF0, later switched to old DJ-F ... so I expect to see DJ-F on 2x2Gb kits too

even with help from Dr.Voltage don't expect them to hit anywhere near 2000 6-7-6 32M stable ... with supergood kit 2000 6-8-6 should be possible, but won't be very fast

the setting I'd be looking for are 210x19 with 1:5 and 7-8-7

The Memory is no "normal" HyperX it is the editon with the Extended Fins.
The Price do not looks like HFC0, maybe BBSE?

[Sam]

The Memory is no "normal" HyperX it is the editon with the Extended Fins....called "HyperX T1" , if I remember correctly :DThe Price do not looks like HFC0, maybe BBSE?they are in same price zone (~100EUR/2x2Gb) as G.Skill Trident, which are DJ-F (DJ-F = BBSE)
cheapest 2x2Gb Elpida Hyper seems to be 2000 CL8 HyperX which start from 136EUR :)

[Kabauterman]

OK, don't know that DJ-F are BBSE
I know that this are no Hyper Chips ;) but I hope the Memory runs good enoght

[hey]

i checked tickets; our arrival to the airport is 11.40. Anyone else comes that early ??

[Kabauterman]

12.25 here :)

[Monstru]

Around 11-12 here :)

[Sam]

14.something here

[Pt1t]

i checked tickets; our arrival to the airport is 11.40. Anyone else comes that early ??

My train arrive @ 9:44 to Paris :D

[hey]

wow so that really good! we almost have half a day :D

[hey]

i dont know how many airport exist at paris but here the name of ours :) CHARLES DE GAULLE

[marmott]

there are 2 airports in Paris (for big planes) and you arrived in the biggest one.

the other one is Orly.

[Predator]

i dont know how many airport exist at paris but here the name of ours :) CHARLES DE GAULLE

that's a good airport to land at for sure, you guys are lucky you won't have to try the Beavauis one, that's for low cost flights, i had to go through that one by Ryanair and it was a total nightmare xD

[marmott]

yeah Beauvais is like one hour from Paris by bus, not really in Paris so.

[Sam]

just came back from the contest , if someone doesn't know results yet : 32M and 01 winners are Czech Republic and Turkey accordingly, my team took 3rd and 6th places out of 20 teams.

Not going to complain about the hardware - everyone was in same conditions and ran (almost) similar clocks. But the memory was a really unpleasant surprise for everyone, thumbs down for Kingston 2000 CL9.

Pics coming in a few days.

P.S. Lost to Massman in 32M, life's over !!! :(

[hiwa]

maybe in next event guys
Congrat to WINNERS :ocx0939:

[DeDaL]

I'm agree with you Sam, memory and i5's uncore are really mess.

Pics, pics, pics... :D

[K404]

+1! Pics! Stories! Full results!

[Predator]

if no pics then it didn't happen :D

[Sam]

I didn't take any pictures from the comp as I was too sleepy/not present during the PR stuff and too busy during the contest time.
Need to wait a day or two when all the competitors/press guys come home ,fix their hangovers and start uploading pics :D

Here's my story (if anyone can be bothered to read it):

As I usually do - boot at stock first, tune the OS, disable the unneeded crap - got this done fairly quickly.
Then went for 220 BCLK boot (with mems at x4 and running loose) , couldn't do it after a couple of attempts so settled for 210x19.
Started tweaking the memory with x5 and found it to be unstable even with 9-9-9-24 at 1054MHz. After 30mins of troubleshooting found the cause which was the tRFC - I usually set it to 60, however, minimal stable was 72.
Couldn't quite figure out what chips it was using because Vmem over 1.76 was no go (smells like elpida) but tRFC under 72 was no go too (smells like zamzung).
Somehow got it running at 8-9-8-24 , tRFC 72 , moderate subs to produce a 9:10.7 safety run.
Time was running out, so did same run with copywaza, which got us 9:06.9 and third place.
When 01 round started , as everyone, been testing the card's capabilities. Found 729/1600/1350 to be the highest clocks that consistently passed all the tests, could pass N at 756 gpu but not any higher.
Heard that some teams were getting over 800MHz core, so our morale was down a little, had a quick idea of stamping the card with a leg, saying "oops" and ask hicookie for another one, but somehow got talked out of it by Jaan.
Made a safety N4.9-LL0.0-LH0.0-DH5.0-DL5.0-CH5.0-CL5.0 run of 800xx , bad CL (~1081 fps) ... started rerunning CL to get the boost, this got our judge bored so when I caught good CL and 80443 pts the judge was looking the other way so the score did not count.
Still had some 50mins left on the clock, with Jaan's help made a better 80291 run but still no good CL (~1085 fps) after ~40 attempts.
20mins before the buzzer went for 1.7VTT and 222BCLK/9-9-9-24-superloose option that has passed everything in my order with 100-200 point gains in each GT ... right before the CH after which the system stalled and could not boot any more.

[K404]

I read it :D Shame about your final Chase High :(

Were the other teams pulling 800MHz core linked, compared to your 729-756?

[Sam]

I ran 729/756 unlinked because anything linked with shader above 1600 caused a crash, same max frequency as shader in unlinked mode. Not sure about others.

[Monstru]

Well, I do not know about SuperPi, but I do know why the guys from Turkey won with such a big margin :)

They were running 222, 2220 8-9-8, and they really tweaked the 2k1 runs, so the results is almost perfect. We were running almost same specs with them (222, 2220, 8-9-7-20, tRRD 3) and we were having some....nice fps (ask hey and tosuner_mc, that saw what we were pulling there), but we did 3 horrible mistakes:

1 - we played it all or nothing, and in the end it was nothing.
2 - we didn't get the hint when the tests would random fail after 4-5 runs, and we would not take the BCLK 1-2 MHZ lower like Belgium did. We were such egomaniac stupid bastards that when we have seen hey's fps and our fps we were 100% sure that we will win the 2k1 with 82k. We were so sure about that, that we didn't even realise our problem was with BCLK not VGA, so we wasted all the time trying to find the sweetspot for the VGA. We could boot at 222, we could run 32M with tighter sub-latencies then 2k1, we would pass any test if run separately, we would pass lobbies, nature and CH, but we would ALWAYS fail at the beggining og DH or CL if run in "tweaked" order!!!!!!
3 - we DID NOT try the oldest fkin trick in the book. We didn't try letting 2-3 minutes cool down breaks between runs.


Regarding SuperPI, we were just stupid. We wasted most of the time trying to run 235 BCLK. When we realised we cannot do it, we wasted more time tightening the latencies on the ram. After that we had a run (9.15), after that we had another run with copy wazza (shaving 5 seconds, so 9.10.3 smth), and when we should have bring in the heavy system tweaks and shave 3-4more seconds, out time was up.

So, from my point of view, even if usually we have bad luck in this sort of competitions, this time it had NOTHING to do with luck. We were just stupid and inefficient, so we deserved to achieve nothing.


But enough about us. I REALLY want to congratulate Czech and Turkish for their result, they really played a GREAT game. They were far in front if everybody and they did an extraordinary work! I know how hey and tosuner won in 2k1, I do not know yet what OBR used in Pi32M, but I am really curious , because it worked great.

Also, BIG congrats to the Belgium team, you guys really played a very intelligent game, and you deserve all the credit for that. Also, my respect for Norway and their 2k1 performance, and for Latvia and Estonia for their PI32M performance.

All my respect and my congratulations for everybody in this competition, everybody worked hard and played nice. Also, BIG congrats to Gigabyte, this was an extraordinary event and I am proud that we took part of this.

Thank you for this great experience everybody!!!

And do not forget, the party is in 7081, Romania's room (at least we didn't suck at that :D:D:D )

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[Sam]

everyone lining up to get the hardware kits :

http://www.abload.de/img/_mg_0820k3j8.jpg

Team Latvia + Estonia

http://www.abload.de/img/_mg_082603zq.jpg

Team Romania (were sitting right behind us)

http://www.abload.de/img/_mg_0856h05x.jpg

Team Serbia

http://www.abload.de/img/_mg_086393xe.jpg

Team Czech Republic (were sitting right in front of us) + their winning 32M run

http://www.abload.de/img/_mg_0888z5p3.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/_mg_0901v4hv.jpg

mass pics

http://www.abload.de/img/_mg_083090ho.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/_mg_0832z5ke.jpg


32M , third place : Team Latvia + Estonia

http://www.abload.de/img/_mg_0924n044.jpg

32M, second place : Team Belgium

http://www.abload.de/img/_mg_0927v0uk.jpg

32M, first place : Team Czech Republic (check out the original tweaKING crown :D :D :D)

http://www.abload.de/img/_mg_0930i19x.jpg

3DMark01 , third place : Team Norway

http://www.abload.de/img/_mg_0934l4bi.jpg

3DMark01 , second place : Team Belgium

http://www.abload.de/img/_mg_093662gv.jpg

3DMark01 , first place : Team Turkey (and another tweaKING crown :D)

http://www.abload.de/img/_mg_0937e2at.jpg

[Hyperhorn]

Great pics so far, I will add some! :)
If you want to see all of my pictures from the competition at a higher resolution, please have a look here: http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,698446/Gigabyte-TweaKING-Event-Die-Sieger/Benchmark/News/ (including summary in German)
Later I will upload a few photos of Paris sightseeing, too. :cool:

http://www.abload.de/img/pa270777_gigabyte_twea3ejw.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/pa270783_gigabyte_tweadhju.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/pa270892_gigabyte_tweajdah.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/pa270923_gigabyte_twea4cox.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/pa270952_gigabyte_tweamg4i.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/pa270971_gigabyte_tweanhqf.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/pa271006_gigabyte_tweajh6u.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/pa271031_gigabyte_tweafdqy.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/pa271082_gigabyte_tweaud1w.jpg

[Turrican]

nice pics.
lol, sam looks really exicted:D:D

[ME4ME]

Here you go, some of my pictures:

LINK TO ALBUM (http://s536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/ME4ME2/Gigabyte%20TweaKING/?albumview=slideshow)

for those who want to download, at the left side on the following page, there is a "Download this album" buttom ;)
check: Main page (http://s536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/ME4ME2/Gigabyte%20TweaKING/?)

[dinos22]

hahahhaha "i lost to massman in 32M, life is over"

so 72 TRFC was the lowest..........maybe it's not Elpida based then

i also saw Pt1t comment he could do 1000MHz 7-6-5-x WTF :S

we had kingston for GOOC final....really gay RAM...i think ours was Samsung based

[Sam]

I see that there is a discussion at XS about the Czech's winning 32M run.
Since (for obvious reasons) I cannot post at that forum, I will share my thoughts here.

First of all I want to make it absolutely clear that their 32M score was achieved without any illegal or uncommon tweaking methods or cheating, so it stands no matter where this discussion leads to, period.
Our team was seated right behind them and with tables so close, it was difficult not to notice what the team in front were doing. As far as I remember, all their "tweaks" were the classic theme , defrag drive , minimum service adjustments (if any) , diagnostic boot , maxmem and before the runs they did waza through OCX spi tweaker without any monitoring (through taskmanager) or waiting (for numbers to stabilise).
I do not have a P55 rig to test it now, but another interesting feat of their score is QPI multiplier, which is at x18 while all others are at x16.

As for our run vs Team Belgium's run - they won on the basis of three factors a) higher memory frequqncy b) higher uncore c) write to read (same rank), which yields close to 0.5s per step in 32M. On the contrary, we ran tighter tRFC (88 vs 72) and tighter tWTP (27 vs 18) but they don't affect pi as much as the three factors I listed above.

[dinos22]

i have spent a fair bit of time on P55 due to F1OC competition in 32M SuperPi recently and have a pretty good idea where gains are in Pi

i have to say that my post was simply to find more info and not to give fuel to ppl that will whinge and moan which this thread will quickly derail into at XS from what i can see just like every other competition thread it seems these days

i looked over settings i think that based on those settings it made no sense that they could beat you guys by that margin but i didnt realise that they in fact had OCXtweaker run.............now that i've read it again he does actually state how he's run it too....

i dont actually doubt the validity of that run at all but i dont understand where they've gotten those gains from either....sure the obvious was stated but you have offset that by some of your timings so i dont think its that....QPI wouldnt affect it

i did however hear that you guys were on older bios which didnt actually accept changes in OCX Tweaker even though it appeared to look like it did....were you on older bios?

This would then make sense why OBR was that far ahead of you....that is the only think that would make sense a little and the fact that they did in fact pull off a nice wazza through OCXtweaker which i've been able to do every now and then on some OSes...but not on just any OS which is weird

[dinos22]

one thing i want to ask you Sam. Why did you not use your knowledge you supposedly gained from raja recently to run your RTL MUCH lower than what you have there

If you did know how to do that surely you would have done that ........

[Sam]

when the boards were handed out they all had F3 version of BIOS inside. Later, the organisers handed out USB sticks with F5D version and it was free choice to flash it or not. We flashed it.

as for RTL - everyone who tried setting RTL out of default value ended up with their rig not POSTing, so it was not an option.

[dinos22]

unless there is something super wrong with that bios or the CPU i dont understand why ppl could not set RTL

did you set each channel separately with at least +2 added to channel B?

so that superpi run of yours was done on the new bios?

[Sam]

did you set each channel separately with at least +2 added to channel B?yes, I did , no go still

as for new BIOS - I perfectly remember us going through flashing it, but now I've checked CPU tweaker and it says we were on the F3. FAIL ?

[dinos22]

yup you were on older bios for that run

[Hyperhorn]

Some impressions of Paris :ocx22:
(I uploaded some more impressions at a higher resolution here (http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,698446/Gigabyte-TweaKING-Event-Die-Sieger-Update-Impressionen-aus-Paris/Benchmark/News/) again)

http://www.abload.de/img/pa260698_gigabyte_tweak6gi.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/pa260702_gigabyte_tweau6dw.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/pa260703_gigabyte_tweae66i.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/pa281091_gigabyte_tweai6ah.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/pa281098_gigabyte_tweax6ua.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/pa281102_gigabyte_twea4u36.jpg

[hey]

here some ..

first one is my favourite :)

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/9209/dsc0960.jpg

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6084/dsc0696t.jpg

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6880/dsc0895j.jpg

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9913/dsc0972r.jpg

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4165/dsc0985d.jpg

[Turrican]

great pics :)

[n3ocort3x]

great pics and awesome event guys :D

[Predator]

Paris, what a beautiful place, you guys had fun, awesome pics :)

[Monstru]

Very late, and I appologies for that. Here is our story Gigabyte Tweaking (http://lab501.ro/editoriale/gigabyte-tweaking-paris-26-28-octombrie).

Once again congrats to the organisers and winners, this was one hell of an event. It was an honour and a pleasure to meet again with old friends, and also meet new ones. You guys are great, and I will really remember this great adventure (after all, not everyday you get a bed full of some of the world's greatest clockers j/k) :D

[Fred]

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4404/tweaking08.jpg

sorry I couldn't resist :D

[Monstru]

Brilliant!!!!!!

[skunk]

It was really a funny event, for me at least.... and was really nice to meet some of you.